Help me understand the ending (spoiler)
Posted by G993 - Monday, October 19th, 2009
Ok... at the end of the movie, why does the lawyer give him a chance to choose.... either way isnt he going to be sentenced to death?? did the lawyer give him the choice to be free n drop all the charges if he did not press call?? if so then why did he say "i dont make deals with murders"? What im trying to understand is what if he didnt blow the bomb what would the outcome have been??
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why are you supporting the cop? you p*^%## of sh##@%
i couldnt agree with you more. i think he should have not only survived and was set free but killed the mayor and all those people and the cop and lawyer (jamie foxx) but that is just my opinon
I agree
I found it odd that when Shelton came "Back to Prison" he didn't find anything odd about it ( before the actual cell scene ). Also i cant imagine how Nick Rice moved the bomb so rapidly, my question is how did he place it in the cell, i doubt he moved it up the ladder and prisons dot tend to be so nice as to allow napalm brought through their gates. Also another weird thing is the actual bomb. You mean they wanted us to believe that it could be moved so easily ? if someone ran into it by mistake...that must of passed through Shelton's mind. All in all i have to admit i enjoyed the movie and it was many times better than what I've seen this year. PS: I was pro Clyde all along. I hate those mischievous and lying twatts that "govern" and "serve" us, the people. KUDOS CLYDE :))
I don't get how he did it so fast,either. But the bomb was hidden in a suite case,so that's who they got it in there.
I watched this movie last night and I loved it right up until the end. I would have loved for Fox's character to be killed but in the end they kept repeating "it's a decision you have to live with for the rest of your life." Clyde was saying this as a result of Fox's characters decision not to fight for his family. Fox's character was able to become DA but he had to lose everything around him to get there. He had to witness murders of friends and colleages. He didn't work himself to the top it was given to him by Clyde and it's a constant reminder of how he messed up years ago. He has his family, but ultimately he is responsible for all the murders and deaths of everyone. He didn't support Clyde's wishes to fight for his family and in the end he is responsible for the death of Clyde. and now he needs to wake up everyday thinking about what happened.
What the movie wanted us to assume was that Bulter had to go through all the road blocks and the tunnel but Fox could have a chopper fly him in to the prison so that they could empty out the part of the prison so as not to cause harm to guards or prisoners, the prison itself had already been compromised with all the tunnels and would need the repair work anyway, also all the explosions in the yard did not help. If they had given us the clues that Fox was bringing the bomb back it would not have been a surprise. As far as the fact that Butler should have noticed things when he was coming back, true but as you remember he was in a bit of a hurry and he could have been over confident and cocky, he was a spy brain probably did not do a lot of field work previously. I loved the judge gettin' it, i yelled out in the theater and clapped, and yes Butler shoulda won and we should send copies of this movie to all judges and layers so they can know that the citizens have spoken!!
The ending was a complete departure from the rest of the story.
Clyde was out to destroy the corrupt system, not just kill people. He also believes that everyone should pay for their action, including himself. He would have planned his own punishment for the "innocent" people he killed (lawyers and cell mate). The video of the mayor suggesting bending or breaking every law to achieve her goals, plus video of the District Attorney saying "fuck his civil rights" while he broke in and performed an illegal search, plus the police lock-down of the city would have led to riots if released to the public. If the DA could be provoked into killing an unarmed man in a jail cell, it would have made it even worse.
The ending that would fit would be: Clyde is shot to death in his cell by DA, The "bomb" turns out to be fake, the videos of the Mayor, and DA are released to the press, the public rises up and topples the corrupt system and goes after the DA for murder.
I didn't watch it but I'm hearing it while my mom and dad are watching it.
i understand how a lot of people think the ending is bad.
The lawer gave him a chance when the lawyer says, "i don't do deals with murders" he is pretty much saying i learned my lesson and this needs to end, but the main actor feels he still has a lesson to teach by taking down the "corrupt" judical system. In my personal oponion the ending is fitting because the actor got revenge on the lawyer by killing friends and people who worked with the laywer and helped make a deal with the murders. By destroying the city hall, the mayor, and all the people at the meeting what kind of lesson is he teaching? Did they make the deal with the murders? no, they did not. he already got revenge on the laywer and everyone that was part of the deal the lawyer made. To sum it up the main actor was getting carried away and was going to kill innocent people part of the court system. But, at first i was mad also because i felt the guy was getting revenge and it was amazing how he was doing it. although, i started to realize he was getting carried away. Hope this helped!
Aside from the obvious "he'd never fail to have better security on his own op", more important is the waste of the finish. The Henry Gondorf-esque mastermind would have the mayor's conference about stomping all over the Constitution on broadcast TV. He'd have exposed the hypocrisy of the "break any rules" cops and DA to the public. And/or driven the cop to shoot him at the end, with THAT recorded such that the COP then went to prison.
The ending felt like a panicked Hollywood ending, bolted on when they lost the stones to follow through on a dark but brilliant concept.
Instead it is as stupid and disappointing as T-Rex coming in and saving the defeated "heroes" from the velociraptors. That bozo Spielberg didn't have a hand in this did he?
Great film, one of my all time favorites, didn't see anything coming, I actually believed he had an accomplice, and that it was the blond AD. I was one of them people hoping he would blow up the major at the end,just to make his point even more heard. but I'm glad he died because he set out to do what he wanted, and had nothing eles to live for. And keeping Jamie foxx alive, he finally listen and agreed with what clyde was saying, and now has to live the rest of his life, haunted with the fact he played a massive part in the death of his friends and work colleagues, by bargining with murderers
why the hell the bad lawyer that make deals with Murdures rapest and all kind of bad ppl. win at the end (he change hes mind in end ? so fucking what... it remove that he done in past ? criminals who got free by him still could do the same crimes )so why only batler die and not both of them or both on jail or something equal (i tell you why cus the writer was BAD, bad bad end)
Great Movie indeed, Bad ending indeed.
Men that killed butler family seemed like it was personal to me or hired by someone didnt seem random. Liked the cat n mouse game between fox n butler. The ending to me was perfect especially when butler realized he was bout to b erased.
Somebody had to help him get fake ID's and operate that mechanical bomb robot. How did it get all the way to the funeral undetected? Don't they still watch you in solitary confinement? How was he able to slip off for that long?